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Is there a minimum duration for MIDI notes?

I'm getting stuck notes pretty often when playing Aalto controlled by my Manta, and so far the pattern I've seen is that it seems to happen when the note-off is right after the note-on (within a few milliseconds). This happens if I quickly brush across the pads, for instance. In one of the MIDI Monitor captures the note-on and note-off were at the same timestamp (so within 1ms), but the MIDI off did come after the MIDI on.

Thanks again!
-spencer

I have never run into this problem. I'll try to reproduce it with a Max patch sending really short MIDI notes.

Thanks! Let me know if you have trouble reproducing and I'll try to put something together. I've pasted below a MIDI Monitor capture that caused a stuck note. In this case after the capture the note D#2 was stuck on.

-spencer

19:43:16.391 From MacManta Note On 1 E3 56

19:43:16.391 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 71

19:43:16.399 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 69

19:43:16.407 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 71

19:43:16.416 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 72

19:43:16.423 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 73

19:43:16.445 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 72

19:43:16.454 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 65

19:43:16.461 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 53

19:43:16.469 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 26

19:43:16.476 From MacManta Note Off 1 E3 0

19:43:19.599 From MacManta Note On 1 D#2 30

19:43:19.599 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 21

19:43:19.607 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 19

19:43:19.616 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 18

19:43:19.631 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 16

19:43:19.639 From MacManta Note On 1 D#3 35

19:43:19.639 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 14

19:43:19.645 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 14

19:43:19.645 From MacManta Note On 1 G#3 62

19:43:19.645 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 35

19:43:19.653 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 12

19:43:19.653 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 13

19:43:19.653 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 36

19:43:19.662 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 9

19:43:19.662 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 12

19:43:19.662 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 38

19:43:19.670 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#2 4

19:43:19.670 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 10

19:43:19.670 From MacManta Note On 1 F#3 90

19:43:19.670 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 76

19:43:19.670 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 43

19:43:19.677 From MacManta Note Off 1 D#2 0

19:43:19.677 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 7

19:43:19.677 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 74

19:43:19.677 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 47

19:43:19.683 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 6

19:43:19.683 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 71

19:43:19.691 From MacManta Note On 1 E3 80

19:43:19.691 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 63

19:43:19.691 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 75

19:43:19.699 From MacManta Note On 1 D#2 1

19:43:19.699 From MacManta Note Off 1 D#2 0

19:43:19.699 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 D#3 2

19:43:19.699 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 62

19:43:19.699 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 46

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Note On 1 C2 83

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 C2 69

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Note On 1 G2 79

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 53

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Note Off 1 D#3 0

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 63

19:43:19.707 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 41

19:43:19.716 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 C2 63

19:43:19.716 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 52

19:43:19.716 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 65

19:43:19.716 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 73

19:43:19.716 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 32

19:43:19.723 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 C2 59

19:43:19.723 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 53

19:43:19.723 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 63

19:43:19.723 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 68

19:43:19.723 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G#3 11

19:43:19.730 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 C2 52

19:43:19.730 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 55

19:43:19.730 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 41

19:43:19.730 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 41

19:43:19.730 From MacManta Note Off 1 G#3 0

19:43:19.737 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 C2 35

19:43:19.737 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 53

19:43:19.737 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 36

19:43:19.737 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 31

19:43:19.745 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 C2 15

19:43:19.745 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 48

19:43:19.745 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 E3 23

19:43:19.745 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 F#3 5

19:43:19.753 From MacManta Note Off 1 C2 0

19:43:19.754 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 35

19:43:19.754 From MacManta Note Off 1 E3 0

19:43:19.754 From MacManta Note Off 1 F#3 0

19:43:19.762 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 29

19:43:19.768 From MacManta Aftertouch 1 G2 16

19:43:19.775 From MacManta Note Off 1 G2 0

Update - I found a bug in my Manta library that was causing it to sometimes send the note-off directly after a note-on (in the same callback), which was the scenario that was causing the stuck notes.

It seems unlikely that any reasonable sequencer or instrument would do that (send a logically zero-length note), so it's probably not a big deal from a practical standpoint.

-s

Thanks for the update. It's a case I should be handling better so I still have a note to do something about it.