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Hi guys,

I've been making some MPE patches with the Linnstrument and am struggling to control volume of the patch using Pressure/Aftertouch (henceforth referred to as Pressure), for dynamic swells/releases etc.

The only way that jumped out at me to achieve this was to modulate Gate Level using Pressure. The problem seems to be that the Linnstrument doesn't necessarily send a Pressure -> 0 message when you release a note, meaning Aalto keeps the Pressure signal high.

Therefore, with Pressure routed directly to Gate level, the gate stays open, even after you've released the note.

Has anyone come up with a way to do this naturally with the existing architecture? If not, I think there are two solutions:

  • Allow for realtime modulation of Envelope 1 Sustain level while a note is held (i.e. not just at note on), so that we can modulate Sustain level with Pressure instead of Gate level. This is probably preferable as the Release phase will still be triggered on note off.

  • A setting that forces the Pressure signal to 0 every time a note is released (feels like a bit of a hack and no control over a Release phase)

Cheers

Thanks both for the responses!

Just updated to the latest firmware and now it seems that note off does indeed = pressure to zero, so maybe I just had a bugged beta version! (I was sure I recalled it working better with Aalto in the past...)

Realtime modulation of ENV1 would still be rad (and not just for MPE related patches), but yes - please ignore the above - patches now playing fine.

Hi Randy,

I've developed a similar problem after updating Aalto to 1.7. Stuck notes and a lot of hung notes, which didn't happen with the previous version (literally on the same midi clip).

My buffer size is a lot larger generally (I think I was running on 512 today) so I'm not sure it's specifically a buffer size issue.

For reference, I'm also on Bitwig (tried with both 1.1.10 and 1.2 beta [can't wait for them to implement third party MPE support!]). Windows 8.1, i7 4770k, 16gb RAM.

Cheers

Another vote for the above idea! I assume this has already been discussed to death either on this forum or internally at Madrona Labs, but I'm curious as to what the current opinion about it is?

I'd find external audio processing unbelievably useful - I use Ableton's Corpus with a real low wet % on lots and lots of tracks just to add a little spice. The thought of having access to Kaivo's modulation to deepen that spice even further is pretty much making me salivate.

Obviously "bounce the track out and import it into the granulator!" is the immediate solution, but from a workflow and live experimentation perspective I would personally find huge value in using Kaivo's modelling section as an effects plugin.

Regardless of the above, thanks a bunch for Kaivo and I can't really sing its praises high enough. By far the most inspiring piece of software I've ever used and it really makes you start to philosophically contemplate the potential for original 'art' in the digital domain, rather than just trying to recreate analogue sounds from 30 years ago...