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Dear Randy.

As per my comment on Youtube: Of course the whole VST hassle normally comes with the territory but that is actually my main point: Must one really add a completely new kitchen wing to the house to get that one pefect expresso machine whistling? :-)

A semi-standalone situation as you (seem to) suggest could however be just the right ticket for me. I can then keep the rest of my workflow in the good old "hardware only" realm and just let the laptop do all the number crunching on one instance of Kaivo, which seems to be renowned for being processor-hungry anyway. So if I could run it as a single semi-standalone polyphonic poly aftertouch sensitive synth with a reasonably low latency I would already be more then happy since my preffered working method is based on recording real time performances anyway.

One extra remark: An alternative to full poly aftertouch processing would be to at least have Kaivo available in a multitmbral mode, since somebody has already cracked the poly atertouch to multichannel /-timbral nut for me, assuming that would not defeat the whole K.I.S.S. principle again.

Anyway: If you could point out a sure fire method to achieve such a solution I would appreciate it very much.

Kind regards,

Marc Brassé

Sorry to be stubborn but that is actually exactly what I am trying to avoid, now is it? Are there any experiences with hosts, for instance, Savihost?

Hi Guys,

I just bought Kaivo after wondering for quite long if I wanted to get into using plug-ins at all. My present main axe, the Techncis WSA (Uh oh, Ancient!) can do about everything I want, including rather advanced sample based acoustic modeling (sounds familiar?) but it can not load user samples.

Now I have to find out how to get Kaivo running. I think I'dd actually prefer to run it individualy in something like VSThost, since I still do everything else in ultra stable dedicated hardware. That might seem archaic but the ergonomics of hardware can still not be beat. Any solution I'dd use for Kaivo should however be able to handle polyphonic aftertouch because that is very important to me.

O.K. I know that I should be ashamed that I dare to ask you buffs (some of you actually build your own Soundplanes!) but can somebody help me? Does anybody have experience with such hosts? Or should I still switch to something more advanced to get the poly aftertouch running?

Kind regards,

Marc Brassé

Ah, other hardware buffs do still exist.

I've got a whole list of issues with these old things but the "fun" side is that one learns a lot about repairing and even modyfing this old analog stuff in the process. Did youa have a look at my special projects? Ever seen a fully programmbale E70 oozing with CS80 technology. Have a look at my Son OF GX project. Want some Kaivo avant la lettre. Look at my Starship One setup.

Recently I resored the sixt voice on my Yamaha CS70. Now I am trying to revive a very rare one: The Crucialnelly Compacsynth. That one however ahs so many issues it'll probably end in something close to a full electronic restoration.

And those Rhodes Chroma's stil need a new power suplly and, and adn, Jadajadajada.


Thanks Inductive,

Sorry If I was no totally clear but you answered the question anyway. For the time being I'dd prefer to run Kaivo as close to stand alone as possible, so without it being integrated into a full Workstation or Tracker environment.

The route for an accompanying hardware solution is clear enough. We have some laptops "lying around the house" (I am actually not that ancient. I thank you. :-)) and I also already own an early USB to MIDI interface.

I'll surely try Minihost and get back to you on the results

Marc Brassé

ab lard moans?

My wife: Maradona B(a)l(l)s.

OK, we'll keep on practicing.

Er. I own a collection that might look like a museum collection to most of you/ I'dd advice you to have a look at my website at (if you dare!).

Kaivo is actaully my first foray into plugins after some bad early experiences with Native Instruments B4 Hammond simulator.

Marc Brassé



I also just bought Kaivo after wondering for quite long if I wanted to get into using pluginns at all. Now I have to find out how to get it running. I think I'dd actually prefer to run it individually in something like VSThost, since I still prefer to do everyhting else in in ultra table dedicated hagrdware. That might seem archaic but the ergonomics of hardware can still not be beat.

Any solution I'dd use for Kaivo should however be able to handle polyphonic aftertouch because that is very important to me.

Can you inform me how you set up Kaivo n htt XP. What did you use as a host? Any other tips?

Marc Brassé

Hi Randy,

The special Kaivo 50 % discount just pulled me over the threshold but the coupon code does not seem to work (anymore?). I might be too late because you mention december 10 but on the other hand, counting from receiving the mail on 08-12 at at 21:29 Central European Time, I should have been wiithin the 3 day period mentioned.

Please let me know if you can still do anything for me.

Kind Regards,

Marc Brassé

Dear Randy,

I just had a look at the demo again and would want tot add these question / suggestions:

1) Does the 2D plane of the granulator work like a mixer only or does it provide real interaction between the granulated samples? In the Technics WSA there is such a function. It can for instance impart sustain on a percussion sample when one combines it with a longer or looped sample, which leads to very lively results because the sustain is not derived from looping or granulating (and thus repeating) but from a "natural" and thus continiously stretching of the percussion samples harmonic contents.

2) More in general: I'dd probably want more complex EG's, preferably with a loop function. Loopable EG´s can be used like extra LFO´s with fully programmable waveforms and would therfore fit rather well in (semi)modular systems like the Aalto and Kaivo.

Marc Brassé

Oops, I just spotted a repeat knob in EG2!


Dear Randy,


Sorry about my remark about the marketability of such concepts in general. I didn"t want to sound smug but was just thinking about how the physical hardware synths of the 90ties bombed when the analog revival hit. Of course I still hope this will make you all fabulously rich :-)

I also understand that asking for a standalone version proves my probably rather obscure reluctance to get into the software realm. It's just that my hardware studio works flawlessly. So why fix a problem that does not exist? This old dinosaur knows that any tool that isn't stable is a true creativity stopper. If you buy a coffee machine you want it make coffee right away don't you, in stead of having to wade through endless installation issues?

But let's not discuss me personal anxieties here.

I am realy looking forward to Kaivo and I'm glad that fall is nearing its end (:-)). In the meantime I'll have a look a the Aalto manual for those MIDI options.

Marc Brassé


I have been grazing the whole net for something like the Kaivo so seeing your preview really got me exited.

Normally I am a hardware only guy because I always had troubkle with PC based systems in the past (crashes, lost work, latency, you know the dril) but this piece of software can do things no hardware synth can. It reminds me a lot of my favourite synth: the totally underestimated Technics WSA acoustic modeling synth, which I love even more then all the “classics”. The WSA can however not load samples, let alone granulate them. So as far as I am concerned you guys just more or less found the holy grail of synthesis: User configurable exiters for physical modeled resonators!. The only improvement I could think of right now would be the inclusion of real additive re-synthises. Bu this will already do very nicely indeed (understatement!).

The only major question I have is: How controlable is it in real time? Can it react to all the major MIDI controllers? But since it comes from the guys who also build the Soundplane (for me yet another exiting find) that proabably won't be much of an issue.

So although this probably will not be a big seller because most people wil have trouble fully fathoming the whole concept it is almost exactly what I am searching for. Well done!

Other questions:

– When will it be avialble?
– What will it cost?
– Since the rest of my studio still is hardware based: Can it run standalone or is there a simple VST plugin host on which it will run?

Kind regards,

Marc Brassé