ForumsSoftware ← Aalto Mod Wheel/CC1 only works as recorded CC data???

Hi there,

I'm using the CM version of Aalto, but I have also tested this in the most recent demo too. The MOD function doesn't seem to work for me unless the CC#1 data is recorded/non real-time.

My mod wheel is sending on CC#1 and the corresponding mod CC# in Aalto is also set to 1. It doesn't seem to work for live tweaks, but if I record that same mod wheel movement into my event editor (using FL Studio, btw), the recorded movement does modulate as expected.

It doesn't make much sense to me. I also saw this thread, where it seems like the guy had to arm his track to record too:
http://www.madronalabs.com/topics/2413-pitch-mod-1-2-not-working-in-live-9-02

So is real time mod wheel control not possible? Thanks for any advice.

Hi,

The modulation should work in real time. When it gets to Aalto, the recorded data looks exactly like the real-time data. So Aalto is really not capable of doing anything different with one versus the other. This isn't worded perfectly but I hope it makes sense.

So, I would look to some workaround with FL.

Hi Randy,

Thanks for the reply. I wanted to give you an update in case anyone else asks.

I tried loading Aalto CM and Aalto Demo in FL Studio's Patcher and link the mod wheel that way and you are right it works fine although I have no idea why it would work one way but not the other. There must be a bug in FL's remote control settings or wrapper. I'll let them know.

EDIT: Scratch that. It's not FL.

It was the latency on my soundcard (M-Audio FastTrack C400). As soon as I reduced the buffer length/streamed buffer size to 128smp the mod wheel worked fine in real time. I guess FL's Patcher also circumvented this need somehow (maybe internal delay compensation).

Previously I always set it at 256smp since that is normally fast enough latency for me, but slightly better on CPU. Not like I get buffer underruns with 128smps, so I suppose it's silly I'm not using to lower latency setting anyway.

I'm surprised that such a small setting change should behave so much differently with just the mod wheel. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me because it's not like the other external modulators like key tracking or velocity behaved differently with the 256smp setting. But I guess it does. Problem solved.

That is strange but I'm glad you got it working. I'll keep an eye out for any Aalto code that could cause this behavior.